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schoenburger. >> gary get rid of the debt ceiling best or worst thing for the economy? >> it's absolutely the worst thing, brenda. the left likes to say, well, you know, ronald reagan raised the debt limit 18 times, george bush raised it 7 times, bill clinton raised it 8 times. so, you know, both sides do it so it must be okay, and from the perspective of fair and balanced, it has to stop no matter who is president. we go through the same cycle, we raise the debt limit, spend more,en gout and borrow more, and raise the debt limit again and it looks like it's unstoppable, but this is the check and balance of how to govern our society. we can't afford the bills we have now to pay. someone has to say, no, spend what you have and let's move on. >> brenda: you know, it doesn't really mean anything. why not get rid of it. it's been used for political hay, both parties have made political hay out of it. >> that's right, every 18 months we're going through an economic crisis and here we have another one brewing regarding the debt ceiling. let's get rid of it. i'm all for smaller government, but t
is over. eric cantore proposes a three-month deal on the debt ceiling. some democrats are calling it a trap. i'll ask dnc chairwoman debbie wa wasserman schultz what she thinks. democrats are about to drop the ball. tonight, my message to senator harry reid. plus the american people are getting ripped off by a congress that just isn't working. congressman rick nolan, there 30 years ago. he is back now and he can't believe the difference. he is wondering, are we get iti paid for this? >>> is it really an admission of guilt if you don't show any remorse? >> it did not even feel wrong? >> no. it's scary. >> did you feel bad about it? >> no. even scarier. >> psychologist dr. jeffrey gardere on lance armstrong's bizarre performance last night. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. republicans surrendered today in one of his biggest fights. president obama warned republicans about taking the debt ceiling hostage. it looks like they heard the message. >> the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the
separate from the debt ceiling. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills, and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> clearly house speaker john boehner thinks differently. he responded by saying, quote, the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. >>> these pens are designed to be used only by one person, but an investigation discovered that many of them were used on multiple people. >>> are you in hawaii or going there anytime soon? surfers, beware. check out this video. it's a real-life jauss. two sharks were swimming dangerously close to the show. can you believe it? look at that. you could wade in and be bitten, eaten. last year there were a total of 11 shark attacks in hawaii. >> that's what i call dangerously close. >> oh, my goodness. >> so some people in the southeast waking up to the dual danger of flooding and ice. alexandra steele in the weather center. good morning. >> good morning, guys. each snow potentially for you around new york c
conference in the first term. >> to draw the line on the debt compromises. >> raising the ceiling doesn't authorize more spending. >> the president clearly came out putting it on the republicans. >> republicans in congress have two choices here, they can act responsibly. >> this is such a recipe for disaster for the republican party. >> or they can act irresponsibly, they better choose quickly. >> frankly all republicans have to bargain with. >> yes, they are, yes, they are. >> they're holding us hostage. >> are we heading to a shutdown. >> this could be a financial disaster. not only for our country, but for the world. >> social security checks and veteran's benefits will be delayed. >> i don't think it is a question that is even on the table. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wr
republicans not to play politics with the debt ceiling. here is some of what he had to say. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and veterans' benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops our honor our contracts with small business owners. markets could go haywire, interest rates would spike for anybody who borrows money, every home own we are a mortgage. it would be a self-inflicted wound on the economy. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> well, the president hass got to get past the debt ceiling in order to achieve his second term agenda but how does he do it when some republicans are threatening shutdown. chuck todd and howard fineman. chuck, you know, i get the sense i was listening to the late general schwarzkopf, the man shaping the battlefield. he's basically
's the view of all of them. >> of course. >>> we'll move onto the debt ceiling with the government on pace to run out of money by mid-february. >> yesterday, the president warned republican leaders raising the nation's borrowing limit was non-negotiable and congress aimed to use it as lever eventuallyiage for deep s. >> while i'm willing to find middle ground to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate. not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect or ransom in exchange for not crashing the america economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> you know, it looks like republicans are up against another wall. but they're not going to be able to get -- they're not going to be able to get, quite frankly, some things they really want, if they're serio
the debt ceiling or put the u.s. economy st. at risk. it's tuesday, january 15th, 2013 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning, everybody. welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm becky quick along with joe kernen and andrew ross sorkin. we've been watching the u.s. equity futures and at least at this point you can see they do look like they're indicated to open a little lower. right now, dow futures down by about 16 points below fair value. the s&p futures are about 2 points below fair value. we have some different nebs going on at the top of the screen than we do on that fair value board. we'll check on that, as well. >>> dell is said to be in talks with private companies in reports of a possible guyout. the journal says jpmorgan is involved in the negotiations. dell shares have been soaring near an eight-month high on first word of this news yesterday. you can see up about close to 2% to the premarket sales. 64 is the last dip. in other technology news, facebook is holing a press conference today. no word on what the big announcement will be. you've heard a lot of analy
that are raising alarms from demanding republicans immediately raise the debt ceiling and lori about that pesky out of cotrol spending later to considering as many 19 different gun-control measures that he could in force as he gears up for his comprehensive plan tomorrow. our president seems to think of himself like a king and said that our elected officials. joining me now, former adviser to president george w. bush. senior fellow at the cato institute. i will start with you. here is the president back in 2006 on the idea of raising the debt limit. he said, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of our leaders failing in the u.s.overnment cannot pay its own bills and i intend to oppose the effort to increase the debt limit to and here he is begging for the debt limit to be raised now hat he is president. >> i think that he was right several years ago when he talked about the size of fiscal irresponsibility, but all of a sudden he seems to think it is just a wonderful, peachy keen idea. gerri: irresponsible thing to do . brad, to you. i am -- i went back an
the power to ignore the debt ceiling. >> shannon: all right sm. democrats are pointing to a section that reads that the validity of the public debt of the united states should not be questioned. they say, based on that, they would support president obama, in raising the debt ceiling without congressional approval. joining me now to talk about that and many other thicks, former mississippi governor, republican, haley barbour. thank you for coming in. >> i hope the president doesn't try to do that. to try to take away from the congress the power that the constitution directly gives the congress. that is the power to -- to spend, the power to control the debt. i know that the treasury department has announced they are not going to do it. i hope they stick to that decision because this is -- we should never have a situation where one person-- the president -- can put our country deeper, deeper, deeper in debt. we are doing a bad job of that now. it would be really bad if it was not -- if the congress let their control go. >> shannon: you saw the white house press secretary says it is no
the republicans to come to their senses about the debt ceiling. and in the rewrite tonight, the idiotic things republicans are saying about guns, and why president reagan and president george w. bush would disagree with them. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could. go national. go like a pro. >>> a quick update, joy reid and karen finney apparently didn't change the minds of the nra in the first segment, the ad regarding president obama has not been taken down. the ad has been making the website crash and sometimes slow tonight. but the most ugly and stupidest ad the nra has ever done is still there. >>> and ed markey winning the senate seat that will be vacated by john kerry became more inevitable, when one of the democrats said he would stay right where he is
miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? a showdown over the debt ceiling with republicans using the threat of default to try and leverage spending cuts from the white house. representative peter welch is democrat from vermont and he has been calling for the president to envoc the 14th amendment to circumvent congress and protect the economy. congressman, welcome. good to have you with us. before we turn to the debt ceiling, i would like your reactions to the president's proposals to curb gun violence and whether you think those legislative proposals that he made have a chance of getting through either house of congress or both. >> i do. i mean, all of us are just astonished and appalled at what happened in newtown and the idea that a 6-year-old child would have 11 high capacity bullet designed by the military for combat pumped into that little child is really changing the discussion here. so i think the focus on practical things like high capacity magazines, like background checks that work, like trying to come up with appropriate assault weapon ban, these
will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. you know, we're not going to play the same game that we saw happen in 2011. so we're not going to do that. but i will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. we're not going to do that again. >> as i said earlier this week, one of the things i will not compromise over is whether or not congress should pay the tab for a bill they've already racked up. >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with the gun at the head of the american people. that's not how we're going to do it this time. >> this evolution in the president's strategy for dealing with republicans and recognizing their strategy against him and knowing what he can and cannot expect to get out of them. on the last business day of his first term, it paid off today. and them giving up their demand that he needed to negotiate with them on the debt ceiling. today they recognized that they were not going to get that. and today the republicans caved. and the vix was very happy. at this point, the republicans are still trying to hand contingencies on this. they're still trying to say, they'
telling the world, folks, next week we will authorize a three-month temporary debt ceiling increase. that was the announcement from the majority leader of the house republicans announcing they are giving up on what they had been saying for months was their plan, to not approve an increase in the debt ceiling to thereby push the country again into a self-imposed economic crisis and threat of defaulting on our national debt, and all of the economic panic, we know that causes, because they did it before, thaw they did it in 2011, and eric cantor announced today they are not going to do that again, even though they had been saying for months that they would. they gave up today on that threat. that's why the vix panic index stopped panicking today. that's the nice kickoff for what should be a nice weekend for the president. >>> the white house unveiled the new official portrait. the second term one to refresh your memory. this is the first term one. same flag pin, similar blue tie, i guess. lots more gray up top. i don't know why they decided to go from the close cropped i.d. photo look
under control, but does he think the debt ceiling is the leverage that republicans should use to get that done? he'll join us exclusively, and i know you're going to ask him about that. >> absolutely. >> let's check out the action on the street right here. here's how things are shaping up with less than an hour to go. the dow jones industrial average hitting basically at the highs of the day. had been down around 60 points earlier. talking about a gain of 20 points on the blue chip average. fractional move at 13,527. nasdaq chart pattern looks similar. take a look though it's negative. down about nine points on the nasdaq, a quarter points lower and the s&p 500 looks like this. similar chart pattern as the dow up a fraction on the standard & poor's but still that's the high of the afternoon. let's get more on the markets in today's "closing bell" exchange by hank smith and steve from comcast funds and our own rick santelli. >> hello. >> good to see you guys. >> thank you so much for joining us. >> hank smith, we haven't heard from you in a while. let me kick this off with you. how ar
because the debt ceiling concern and talks, it's been pretty much nonexistent on the industrial -- >> the markets at fresh five-year highs. >> yeah. it's all because we had the fiscal cliff. and it was so volatile coming into it. we saw some massive swings and massive breakdowns coming into it. it seemed like the market was all over the place. with the debt ceiling, everyone thinks they'll kick the can, raise the debt ceiling up, or get resolved within -- >> that mean the market's at risk? it would seem yes, right? >> see, if you -- my opinion of what will happen is if there's any small breakdown in it, you know, if there's threats that they may downgrade the s&p, whatever, we'll see a breakdown in s&p down to like 14.50, 14.40. but there are so many people waiting on the sidelines, so much cash. and people looking at u.s. equities over the safety play. they'll start coming in, they'll buy. it i think it's going to be a good year for the s&p this year. >> what does earnings season do? hearing from jpmorgan and goldman sachs, the financials have been a driver of major averages mo
hiring. we may be looking at this debt ceiling, and i'm going to invoke shakespeare, the bard, that this may be much ado about nothing. i'm going there. right here. >> right now? the cliff is -- >> don't you love -- you know, when i first heard, i thought what a great title, i said no, moran, take the shakespeare course first the it's going to be claymation death match, maybe ufc, you and i watch that in our spare time -- not -- but i don't think it's as important as getting through the fiscal cliff. people are hiring again. >> dow transports continue to hit six-year highs. >> even as crude is up 95. >> it's like a market that has transport leadership. did you see union pacific? we had mike's southern on "mad money" he says point-blank, the hole has bottomed and is starting to go higher. and be good to the shutdowns, the coal plants. don't forget china has been burning coal, like you wouldn't believe. much more inventory reduction, because it is so cold. don't care maybe as much about the air. >> apparently not given what we've been hearing out of the beijing. >> can you see y
across the country. >> we're going to change to debt ceiling now. white house leader eric cantor says the gop -- they're going to give them a three-month reprieve, they're going to temporarily approve a debt limit increase. the president said no negotiating on the debt limit ceiling. is this a victory for the president or do you see this as just a postponing of the inevitable standoff? >> it's both. it is a victory for the president, the republicans have been saying, we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless we have every dollar of the debt ceiling goes to spending of that same amount. they've conceded they're going to extend the debt ceiling without any cuts. but that moves us to now where government funding expires on march 31th. at that point, we'll have a s w showdown in which republicans insist on spending cuts. there will still be some kind of fight. we will have a clock to some kind of catastrophic event that could happen, like we had in december. but it would not be with the debt ceiling. the republicans seem to have conceded to the obama. they're worried that obama ha
. it was enough. it got us through that period. then we said, well, we've got to two months until the debt ceiling. it's the 17th today and it just feels different. we're not -- we don't have a clock on cnbc showing the days to the debt ceiling when we hit it. it just seems like the market b is getting desensitized and we figure something -- it's not going to be the deal that we thought. is that true? do we know that, that it's not going to -- you know, derail this? >> my sense is, joe, you might be back to a clock in about a month. i think the one thing we learned from the fiscal cliff was don't really pay attention to anything that comes out of washington until "d" day. >> so that is what we're doing now. we're looking at individual results. >> and i think that's actually what people want. they want to trade in the market. the nice thing about you is you're talking about earnings, you're talking about things that matter to the market right now. everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding
to fitch warning it may downgrade credit, the american credit if we -- if the debt ceiling isn't raised. it's so important t? that we get this debt situation under control, and i think that once again, when you consider what we're doing to our future generations, you know, our children and our grandchildren, currently who have $53,000 debt upon them. we're eroding their possibilities and their opportunities in this great society. so i think we have to have up in washington d.c., the seriousness, to look at the true problem, which is a spending problem. look at mandatory spending programs and we have to stop the exorbitant amount of spending and we have to say, finally, we're going to stop this debt and we're going to get serious, and i think that fitch is very appropriate in saying that if they don't see a curtailing of the spending, that they're going to downgrade us. >> greta: we're going to keep our eye on this, because certainly all eyes are on this debt ceiling these days in washington. stay with us, so congressman, we have much more to talk to you after the break, but first, there is
nothing and there are also no meetings even planned regarding the debt ceiling and the inevitable issue that is are faced by those who need to make the decisions for us. >> yeah. we have got this triple deadline coming up. and nobody -- everybody says they don't want to do it at the last minute the way we did with the fiscal cliff but nobody seems to be talking about it yet. you don't have negotiations started. granted we are in a bit of a holding pattern with the inauguration coming up and maybe things start to happen after that but nobody seems to be jumping in proactively for a solution to these issues that are coming up and that's because they're tough decisions. they're hard. and nobody has something that is universally palatable ready to off offer. >> with that said, will we see a separation of spending cuts the republicans say they want to desperately and separate it from the debt ceiling? as the president said, you can't run out on a meal you have eaten. this is not new debt. this is bills we have acquired. the government and this country must be obligated to do the same. >> wel
to duke it out over the debt ceiling, one said we should get rid of it all together? does ben bernanke have a point? >> the nra releases a new target practice ap for kids as young as 4. >> we have a packed show for you this morning. mike thompson joins us and greg walden is our guest. the congressman and newly crowned miss america, mallory hagen will be joining us. tuesday, january 15th and starting point begins right now. . >>> welcome to starting point. after years and years of lying to the world, lance armstrong is finally coming clean. there report he's confessed to oprah winfrey and he used drugs to win his titles. sources say he is in talks to have some of the millions he was paid by the postal service to sponsor the tour. cnn's ed is live in austin, texas. let's talk about what he told oprah and what the next steps are for lance armstrong. >> the big question will be to what extent did he confess and how much detail is he going to offer? also from the standpoint of how did he offer it and what was the body language there? lance armstrong is an athlete who is vehement in his deni
to get a change of men , maybe we should bring them to talk about the debt ceiling. >> gregg: they are so good at everything. they do have a tendency to get the silk stockings over the least things. remember when we changed from french-fries to freedom fries and they got upset and then disney world and big macgs? >> this is an important issue. we do have things to worry about like unemployment and debt ceiling, but this is big. basically what was happening it was on the menu. it said champagne and champagne technically comes from a part of france. >> gregg: a region of france. >> right and the lobbyists went crazy over this. u.s. law says as long as you show the origin of the grapes it's already but they put california on the right side and on the left side -- >> only the french would get upset about that. >> gregg: the problem is there is too many lobbyists in washington. we put on green room on this. it's astonishing. there are 12,051 lobbyists that are actively lobbying. >> $3.3 billion in one year. >> gregg: i didn't do that. if you do the math, 22 lobbyists for every single member of
unemployment and debt ceiling, but this is big. basically what was happening it was on the menu. it said champagne and champagne technically comes from a part of france. >> gregg: a region of france. >> right and the lobbyists went crazy over this. u.s. law says as long as you show the origin of the grapes it's already but they put california on the right side and on the left side -- >> only the french would get upset about that. >> gregg: the problem is there is too many lobbyists in washington. we put on green room on this. it's astonishing. there are 12,051 lobbyists that are actively lobbying. >> $3.3 billion in one year. >> gregg: i didn't do that. if you do the math, 22 lobbyists for every single member of congress? >> yes. >> gregg: there 22 to one in lobbyists. >> there are a lot of lobbyists. >> gregg: there is a lot of influence peddling going on in washington, d.c. >> to me this champagne issue popped my cork. >> gregg: they ought to switch to martinis? >> i think they would all be happier, champagne does not get to that level. >> gregg: it gives you such a headache afterwards
that the trillion dollar coin could be a loophole for the white house if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling. the doesn't believe the law can or should be used to make platinum coins to avoid an increase in the debt limit. >>> on tuesday, vice president joe biden is expected to deliver recommendations from his gun task force to the president. biden was in meetings last week with gun control supporters, gun rights groups, movie industry leaders and video game leaders. all an effort to prevent more mass shooting. here are some examples of what could be on the list of recommendations. you might see universal background checks and closing the gun show loophole and also the white house is believed to favor ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines. >>> well, we said it before, congress is unpopular. but worst than cockroaches, really? new numbers from public policy polling pitted congress against the worst of the worst. they found that congress was less popular than brusal sprouts. what did congress beat? lindsay lohan and the kardash n kardashians. not saying much. >>> if you're one of
. i mean, i think it would be, frankly, another disaster if republicans try to use the debt ceiling, to force dollar-for-dollar budget reductions. i don't see that as a winner for them, and i can't imagine at least the party establishment is now seeing that as a potential winner for them. i mean, you know, face it. the president won the election. and he laid out a program and a philosophy, and he won the election on it. and i think as long as republicans are going to take the stance that he didn't win and that, in fact, they won and therefore they get to do things their way, i don't think -- i don't see how that's going to help them get out of that 14% hole. >> eugene, nbc.com had a very interesting way of putting it this morning, a very nice tag which is that what the electorate is looking for right now is not so much hope but a president who can cope. it's all about coping, not so much hoping. do you think that this kind of poll suggests that he is going to be able to deliver on that message of coping? >> well, you know, first of all, i think that's right. i think that, you know,
' retirement funds to avoid hitting the debt ceiling. the treasury previously estimated the move would give it around $156 billion in additional borrowing capacity. it says retirees will still receive their benefits. in a letter to the house speaker john boehner, the treasury secretary says this step has been taken before during previous debt limit impasses. several conservative republicans are set to introduce legislation to direct treasury to prioritize debt payments if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling. >>> and president obama will unveil his gun control plan today at 11:45 eastern. he's expected to call on congress to ban military-style assault weapons and the type of high-capacity ammunition used in last month's school shooting in newtown, connecticut. the package will also include efforts to stop school bullying and invest available mental health services. may include several steps the president can take right away without congressional approval. >>> the house of representatives has passed more than $50 billion in aid for hurricane sandy victims. this more than ten weeks after t
there not be crisis after crisis dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you said last night, you've got to put on a yogi bear costume to make sense of it. >> returning a lot to shareholders. >> one wonders. >> $12 million they're talking about. >> they have been increasing, of course, ever since the huge cuts that had to take place. what is it going to be now, four years ago, right? >> that period, $6. >> yeah. >> march of '09. amazing, coming up on the four-year anniversary. >> do you ever worry about your paycheck? >> yeah. i think you worry about money you had in any bank account or anything. sure. ge was to cushifocused in the ff '08, that was the moment where it could all come to -- >> that was after the ge bailout. >> sorry, not to revisit the -- >> we have to remind people where we came from. tim geithner leaving, david faber is worried about his paycheck. >> speaking of paychecks, let's talk morgan stanley. wall street firm reporting fourth quarter earnings 45 earlier on squawk, james gorman said his firm is poised to improved market environment. which shows a lot of promise if uncertainty is re
're trying to get their expectations in check in terms of what they can do, specifically on the debt ceiling, for example. we just heard the house republicans are going to try to negotiate a short-term debt ceiling deal so they can try to go for a grand bargain. second-term presidencies have just been spent and filled with misspent political capital that has just overreach in terms of presidents looking for a legacy and overspending their political capital. that's the risk president obama -- >> interesting in this cnn poll that just come out, how is president obama handling his job as president, approve 53%, disapprove 42%. a plus for him. but when they are asked how is the country headed, right direction 35%, wrong direction, 57%. they approve of the president but think he's going completely in the wrong direction. he's a lucky boy, many would argue, that he's gotten a second term, given the state of the economy, given the fact that most americans think the country is going in the wrong direction. he's been given that lucky second chance. and he campaigned well. you have to acknowledge him
a little mini cave on the debt ceiling, and it looks like they are going to be willing to extend the debt ceiling for three months with which is the cover of the new york times this morning, and what is that about? what is happening? >> well, it seems they are trying to line up their opposition to the president, this debt ceiling trying to line it up with two other big economic situations that we are going to be faced, that is to continue resolution that we common call the c.r. to keep the government running which expires the first of march. and then of course, we have the so-called, i don't know what to call it, but it is not the cliff, but it is not what i would call it. >> the curb. >> yes, the curb beginning to kick in, and we need to work with that and i think that they are trying to line it up to camouflage whatever they may do, which i think will be to vote to let the debt ceiling go up. >> okay. so i should not see this as we say in the black church, a "come to jesus" moment, but in washington they say we are outmanned on this, so we will have to give the president his way, becaus
. >>> onto the debt ceiling. the deadline approaching so it washington on the verge of killing an economy that many people think is actually experiencing a very nice little rebound? we're going to ask loan ceo jim tisch when "power lunch" returns. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >>> four days before the inauguration the latest nbc wall street journal poll is out with the breaking news. john harwood in washington. john? >> tyler, we've just got one question. the full poll comes out tonight but this shows you some of the difficulty president obama is going to face with this gun control issue he's pursuing. look at the public image of the national rifle association. it shows you it's a pretty tough target. at three different decision points after tragedies, columbine they had a net negative rating. at the giffords shooting it was better in early 2011
the enlisted men and women who serve for the u.s. military. >> hmm. we have to talk debt ceiling, peter, because there's been this talk of minting that trillion-dollar coin. that is now off the table. so is the white house looking at another big fight here, and do you think if so it's on par with what we saw at the fiscal cliff? >> i think in many ways this one could be a lot more significant. this could be a lot more difficult than the fiscal cliff. there was a deadline for that and that was an issue that a lot of people felt would be resolved ultimately in some form the way that it was. the debt ceiling crisis does sort of put these o'two sides, the republicans and democrats and the white house and congress head to head. once again right now, the republicans have insisted that the only way they will raise that debt ceiling past the 16.4 trillion mark where it is right now is if they get dollar for-dollar spending cuts that match that raise. the president has said, his press secretary has said, they will not negotiate on this issue. on the fiscal cliff issue they were willing to negoti
up and the debt ceiling talks of 2011 led to a budget standoff between democrats and republicans who had taken back control of the house in the mid-terms. >> is there a risk that the united states could lose its triple-a credit rating, yes or no? >> no risk of that. >> no risk. >> the debt ceiling was raised in august, the political fight and the spotlight on the count row's deficit and debt problems led s&p to downgrade the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> geithner steered the major economic moves in the first term, now he's stepping down at treasury. the pick to replace him is jack lew, who has established a close relationship with the president. he is know chummy with the republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation. for that reason and other, his looming confirmation hearing could be bumpy. but if confirmed, lew will likely be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the count re's long-term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple to the tenor of our times with the budg
. president, what's the deal with the debt? i've been hearing a lot about the debt ceiling. what's my family's share? i'm just a kid. when i'm a grownup, i understand it could be hundreds of thousands of dollars. could you guys please cut spending now? >> brian: if you want to know if that is going to happen today, see if rand paul's grandson will be in there or somebody like that. if there's a republican child or michael j. fox's character, michael keating. >> gretchen: that would be a good one. let's talk about what the new york state has done now and governor cuomo. he immediately went on the attack to try and pass very expansive gun law legislation because many people are saying he wants to run for president next time around and he also was very concerned about the issue. but some people are saying this morning that what they passed last night is full of holes. we want to show you a graphic of a particular kind of weapon that has been banned, a rifle. this is a baneli 1 rifle. the reason it's banned is because you can see how you hold on to the gun there. that's called a military style g
'll be successful avoiding a terrible bruising battle over the debt ceiling? >> i think the president will be successful. the president won, and he won big, and people must respect that. he has the know-how, the skill, the gut to lead. he must tell people when he speak tomorrow during his inaugural that we must come together and look out for the common good and work together and be prepared to compromise. >> but that art of compromise is something we have not seen much of lately in this nation's capital on capitol hill. without a re-election campaign looming ahead, do you think the parties will be able to better work together with this this president in his second term? >> i think we all must work together with this president, not just democrat, not just liberals, but republicans and conservatives. if people fail to come together and work together the republican party will be a party of the past. >> tomorrow is a big day, a great day. a man you called your brother would have been 84. what is his legacy today? how will you read that? >> well, it's a different day. it's not just dr. kin
intimating at this point that they're going to be some short-term extension in the debt ceiling and focus on spending. they seem -- you know, they seem to be a little bit hesitant to allow themselves to be set up again as people that are trying to destroy the economy. they're tired of being put in that position where they're holding back the economy. and i think it was the accusation in the first place, but they're sensitive to this point and they're going to roll over. >> they're very sensitive. the political realities of the situation is that i think we all know what needs to be done longer term. the reality is can they get any of this done in the next two months? and that's a much bigger question. i think they're trying to figure that out right now? >> well, we will have people that will argue that we don't have a spending problem, that president obama said we're going to have an economist on today on how you get -- you know, we're going to talk to him. he says the one thing that would hurt the economy is in cuts in social security or medicare or medicaid. any type of reform to those t
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